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“All communication is an incentive”
Marketers no longer control the communication system, says Don Schultz
By
Amit Agnihotri
Don Schultz is the Professor of Integrated Marketing Communi- cations at the Medill School of Journalism, Northwestern University, and is a renowned name in the field of marketing. He is more known for highlighting the importance of integrating marketing communication (IMC).In this interview, he talks about why IMC is necessary, how marketing needs to move out from a narrow definition to become a strategic planning function!
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| You first propagated the concept of IMC in early 90s. How has the journey been so far? |
| We fist wrote about IMC in our book published in early 90s. We propagated that brands must tie together all its communication activities like mass media advertising, PR, Events, and other tools because consumers see them all as one. They don’t see them as separate activities for separate objectives—but all as messages from brands. But marketers see various promo tools as distinct silos. This is not the best view of a brand’s various communication initiatives.
Then came the Internet, and it change the entire paradigm. So much so that we wish we hadn’t written our book before the Internet era! In pre-Internet era, marketers worked on the assumption of ‘stimulus-response model’, where a firm is sending outbound messages to the customers who are seeking information. Today, that one-way model doesn’t work anymore. It’s a two way street. We are in a networked era. Consumers are coming to marketers with information and demands, as much as marketers are going to them. The Internet has made it possible. Look at the blogs, emails, and websites that consumers are creating to talk to brands today. Marketers have lost control and monopoly over the communication system. This has fundamentally changed the challenge of marketing communication.
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| New powerful brands like Starbucks are relying less on mass media but on experience and other non-traditional modes of communication. Is this the model for future? Should big iconic mass brands of yesteryears adopt this strategy? |
| Let’s first understand where all this is coming from. Product markets are in the stage of massive commoditisation. There seems to be no long-term product advantage there. Features get copies so fast. Also, there is hardly any price advantage left. In this background brand experience has emerged as a strong philosophy to deliver a sustainable advantage. The new way is to deliver engaging customer experience thru product, people, and processes rather than just adding more GRPs.
Starbucks is an excellent example of this approach. Its not just coffee, but the entire experience that talks. Yes, I suggest the large brands to look at this strategy closely and imbibe it.
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| Over the years the discipline of marketing has come under heavy criticism. What’s your view on the problems facing marketing? |
| Surely marketing as it’s been taught and practiced in the 70s and the 80s has come under fire. The product, price, place, promotion model is too vertical. It makes the marketing process into functional silos.
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| So, what’s the solution? |
| We need to organise marketing more vertically. It should be a strategic planning function that should be at the heart of organization. Not just a department. Customer has to be the centre-point.
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| Any examples where the new approach is being implemented? |
| Coke comes to my mind first. Some years back they decided to not have a chief marketing officer anymore. They have elevated marketing into a strategy planning function. They expect the entire organisation to work on the premise that customer is the middle of all activities.
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| Coming back to marketing communication challenges, you have argued that the whole focus of marketing communication should be to deliver either ‘messages’ or ‘incentives’ to customers. Seeing things from the advertising, DM,PR, events, paradigm is not the best way. Can you explain the rationale? |
| Our research tells us that consumers view all brand marketing communication as either messages or incentives. Messages are what brands are ‘telling consumers’, and incentives are what brands are ‘getting consumers to do’. For instance, thru a theme based mass advertising message brands tells about its values and personality, while through a coupon, or contest driven activity brands wants consumers to do something. Marketers should look at all activities through this prism because this is the way consumer looks at it. Also, this approach allows the top management to calculate return on marketing investments confidently. While messages are somewhat long-term investments, incentives should generate immediate short-term impact.
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| Is it easy to achieve this alignment. We are so used to looking at things through functional silos of DM, PR, advertising and so on? |
| Yes, there is a historical baggage, but we have to move forward. The benefits are clear.
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| How do you see the growing consolidation? Top three-four companies are buying our smaller agencies. How will this impact the future? |
| It depends on from where you look at this development. From a client’s point of view it is not a good news as it limits the choices. There’ll be only a handful of large firms to choose from. But obviously holding companies will gain clout.
Different holding firms are organised in different ways. While Omnicom gives its agency brands separate identity, WPP is driving a lot of things into itself. Interpublic operates a lot like a loose federation of agencies. I see the integration trend becoming stronger. More clients will align their business into one holding company.
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- “Marketing has to re-examine all of its central concepts”: Philip Kotler
Philip Kotler is a brand, and an iconic brand at that. The author of Marketing Management; the definitive textbook read by every business school student across the world, Kotler is currently the SC Johnson & Son Distinguished Professor of Interna- tional Marketing at the Kellogg School of Management, Northwestern University, US.
The maverick marketing academic talks in detail about the changing marketplace and what it means for marketers, the threatened state of marketing as a function and emerging paradigms.
- “Marketers are still stuck in the memories of golden 60s & 70s”: Jagdish Sheth
One of the most erudite scholars and copious writers on various aspects of marketing and consumer behaviour today, Dr Jag Sheth is the proponent of the 4As framework, which lobs the consumer at the very centre of the entire marketing spectrum.In this freewheeling interview,Prof Sheth speaks at length on the whys and hows of refashioning marketing-moving away from the product-and-brand-centricity to one that of consumer-centricity.
- “A great product is the starting point of a strong brand”: Kevin Keller
It’s not everyday that you get to co-author a marketing Bible. But Dr Kevin Lane Keller, the EB Osborn Professor of Marketing at the Amos Tuck School of Business Administ- ration, Dartmouth College, has just done that—the 12th edition of Marketing Management with Dr Kotler. It more than justifies his status as a marketing maven with an enviable reputation in strategic brand management and integrated marketing communications.
- “P&G and HP are leading the marketing RoI wave”: James Lenskold
James D Lenskold is the foremost proponent of marketing RoI. In his book, Marketing RoI: The Path to Campaign, Customer and Corporate Profitability, he asks marketers to inculcate financial discipline by evaluating the return on marketing investments. Lenskold is credited with developing innovative and holistic marketing RoI processes and tools.In this interview, he talks about the demarcation between marketing and business goals, the business relevance of ‘softer’ aspects of marketing, and the need for marketers to look beyond just building a strong brand equity.
- “Customers see higher value when they can co-create”: Venkat Ramaswamy
The rising flow of information and the resultant knowledge that customers have about various products and services, together with their increasing demand for customisation, have put an ever-increasing burden on marketers. In fact, this essentially is a call for letting customers co-create value and thus provide them with product experience that can a last lifetime, says Venkat Ramaswamy, professor of marketing at the Stephen M Ross School of Business at the University of Michigan.He says it’s high time that companies shifted from the traditional 4Ps of marketing and allowed customers to become part of their marketing process so that they can give the product an altogether different meaning. He insists on delivering unique experience to customers by engaging them in a personal way thereby making product purchase a memorable event.
- “Experiential marketing gives you a competitive edge”: Bernd Schmitt
Bernd Schmitt is the Robert D Calkins Professor of International Business at the Columbia Business School, where he also directs the Centre for Global Brand Leadership. A prominent name in the world of branding, he is best known for his unique call to marketing to look beyond the selling model and instead focus on experience as the next big 'differentiator'. In this email interview, he talks about the alternative approach of experience being the pivot of marketing, the five-step process to achieve it and how the consumer is at the end of the day human and like all humans oftentimes it's the heart that rules the head.
- “Markets undergo changes faster than marketers”: Nirmalya Kumar
A formidable authority on marketing, Nirmalya Kumar is the Professor of Marketing and Co-Director of the Aditya Birla India Centre at the London Business School. In his latest book Marketing As Strategy: Understanding the CEO's Agenda for Growth and Innovation, he speaks about the interesting paradox of the marginalisation of marketing as a function while the need for marketing is being increasingly voiced.In this email interview, Kumar speaks about the 'century of retail', its implications for marketers and more specifically what domestic marketers can do to build and sustain strong brands with the advent of organised retail.
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