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“A great product is the starting point of a strong brand”
Old or new, brands have to do the right thing—make them relevant to consumers and the time they’re in, says noted branding specialist Kevin Keller
By
Amit Agnihotri
It’s not everyday that you get to co-author a marketing Bible. But Dr Kevin Lane Keller, the EB Osborn Professor of Marketing at the Amos Tuck School of Business Administ- ration, Dartmouth College, has just done that—the 12th edition of Marketing Management with Dr Kotler. It more than justifies his status as a marketing maven with an enviable reputation in strategic brand management and integrated marketing communications. In this interview, he delves into pertinent issues from the world of marketing and branding and about how the metamorphosis in the market environment has leveled the playing field and lowered entry barriers for new brands, how positioning continues to be relevant et al. |
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| What is the essence of strong brand building? |
| The essence is to understand the consumer in a rich, vivid, crisp and clear way. This paves the way for an understanding of the connections in relationships that can be created between consumers and the brand. The ultimate goal of brand building is to create an intense, active working relationship by getting consumers to buy your product. This happens only when the brand manager really understands the consumers in complete totality—every aspect of their lives from how they think, act to how they feel.
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| In your four-step model for strategic brand management, the first step is to identify and establish brand-positioning values. Does the search for a vacant positioning space that is distinctive and relevant still make sense? |
| Absolutely! Although many suspect that in a cluttered market as of todays, it does not make much sense to look for new and relevant positioning spaces. But, the fun and challenging thing about marketing is that consumers’ needs never get completely satisfied.
They’ve many needs and are constantly seeking things to be better than they are and this is where the opportunity lies for the marketer. The fact that consumers’ needs are never fully satisfied is the great hope for the marketer. Dissatisfaction can be the bedrock for great products.
The important thing about positioning is that it’s not isolated —it’s not only about the benefits of my brand, but it is relative, i.e, how is my brand better than competitors. This, I believe, is the big difference between my positioning model versus the Ries and Trout model. I talk about points of parity and points of difference. Positioning is not just about creating differentiation and relevance for your brand, but its aggressive, it’s as much about negating and neutralising the intended differentiation of your competitors. A one-two punch, if you will!
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| How can we build customer-based brand equity? |
| The first step deals with the question: what are the brand elements? The logo, packaging, signanges, symbol, slogans etc. The second step is developing marketing programmes keeping in mind the product, price, distribution channels, and the communication elements.
The third step is again a short cut; leveraging of secondary association, borrowing from something or someone else—a country, a firm, a person. But, at the heart of the marketing programme is the product or service. Similary, at the heart of a great brand is a great product/service.
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| In your book, you mention, ‘while the principles of brand management are still basically valid, the context in which those principles must be applied to manage brands has dramatically changed’. Can you elaborate on this? |
| To me, the way in which the context has undergone a change can be displayed by highlighting four critical points that have implications for brand management:
* Increased Transparency: Consu-mers today know much more courtesy the increase in media and proliferation of online space. The manufacturer finds it tough to evade the onslaught of transparency.
* Increased Competition: The exploding competition is coming from many avenues: global competition and private label competition in different forms etc.
* Technology: It’s made a tremendous impact in terms of altering channels of communication. This created a different media and distribution environment. It must be well understood before it can be managed to create successful brands.
* Culture: Increasing globalisation of brands translates into brands entering new marketplaces. New marketplaces bring new contexts, sometimes radically different from each other where the brand was developed. The challenge for the marketer is to make the brand work as well in all these diverse contexts.
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| Iconic brands like Levi’s, Coke and Ford have failed to show impressive performance in India. Does their debilitating brand strength herald a trend for downfall of global brands? |
| The truth is that these three brands are struggling in their country of origin just as much as they are in markets around the world. The worldwide dilution of their brand equity reveals an important learning—the country of origin and its association is not always going to be the key driver for a brand’s success. It might prove useful for some time in some regions, but the bottomline is that soon brands will have to answer hard questions like whether they’re creating products and services that are truly relevant and differentiated in the environs they are present in.
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| There’s been a lot of talk about the explosion in the information available to consumers and its impact. How does it impact brand building? |
| I would not regard the information explosion as a necessarily bad thing. But, in terms of what it means for the marketer, there is no ambiguity. The message is very clear—you have to walk the walk, not just talk the talk. Basically, you can’t fool consumers anymore, for they know far more than what you can control. You could even regard this as a blessing in disguise as it forces the brand to confront critical survival issues and become more consumer-centric.
The entry barriers for new brands are definitely lower since now you don’t need a huge budget to invest in mass media for marketing. However, the fact still remains that a marketer has to invest something if he wishes to build a brand on any scale—it can be money or time. For instance, Starbucks is a great example of a new brand with a great product that drove its brand through PR and word-of-mouth. In fact, there is nothing better to build a strong brand than a strong product, but Starbucks took 15 years.
New brands like Google, RedBull, Starbucks have mastered superior delivery to the consumer. That is the key—to start with desired benefits, find out what people aren’t getting and relentlessly deliver on it. This is the wave for the new brands to ride on and become successful. Once you focus on this and deliver, the rest will follow. Positive PR and WoM will come automatically and accelerate your brand building process.
Also, heritage is now a double-edged sword. It creates positive associations but it can also send the message that the brand is old-fashioned. I think, the changing context has really leveled the playing field to a large extent. Old or new, the brand has to do the right thing: making sure its relevant. For a new brand, the opportunity lies in entering with a new approach, marketing strategy and becoming more relevant.
Is it right to say creating a great product that caters to the unmet needs and then developing the marketing programme from there is the right brand building model? I think this is the best model. If I think of the brands that have been most successful in the last decade, this is what they have done—the less differentiated and less relevant the brand is, the more difficult it is for them to be successful.
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| Does whittling down a multiple brand portfolio appear to be the success mantra for brands? |
| This trend of trimming the portfolio to work with a fewer stronger brands has been around for some time. The end limit of the theory is to arrive at the corporate brand as the pivot of marketing. For instance, Unilever which went from 1,600 brands to 400 and then even fewer.
It is a fact that lot of companies are realising especially keeping in mind the economies and efficiencies that are introduced with fewer brands and especially the benefit of a corporate brand with a strong equity like Samsung and General Electricals. But, per se, this does not build a case against sub brands because they also allow you certain benefits. There are examples where brand portfolios allow consumers to connect with consumers with multiple brands.
The application of this principle depends on the product category. When you go to the vertical dimensions, it is harder for companies to stretch across with a single brand especially for some categories, like fashion-clothing, watches etc.
The primary reason is that a stretch needs a imagery that is relevant to different consumers. In a business-to-business setting, where the product’s functionality is very important, a corporate brand is a great idea. But in settings where a lot of imagery is important, the situation changes.
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| What do you think is the future with price-based competition led by countries like India and China? |
| I won’t say this is a new trend: we’ve private labels, offshore manufacturing for years. But it does reveal a set of implications for established brands that come at a premium.
One, is that it forces the brands charging a premium to create strong points of difference, to add value through products and marketing programmes which consumers value enough to pay a higher price.
Second, it makes the pricing aspect clearer. Unless, I am offering something with higher value, the consumer has another lower-priced option to choose. So, I need to see what value I add and how can I price it accordingly.
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| Do you see an Indian and Chinese brands hitting the global market in a big way in the near future? |
| It’s definitely a possibility in the next decade, but not in this decade.
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| While Google, Starbucks etc have done well, reputed brands like Pepsi, Coke, P&G, Unilever are seen to be losing share of mind with consumers? Where are the erstwhile icons missing the picture? |
| I wouldn’t put P&G in that category because globally they have done very well in the last two-three years with record profits. I would also not go so far as to say that the erstwhile icons are missing the picture totally. They are doing things differently. They are not just relying on 30-second advertising but moving towards getting a very comprehensive under rstanding of consumers in terms of developing marketing programmes that are holistic and emphasis on design and innovations.
The trouble with old icons like Levi’s etc is that they have not found a new formula that works well or create a holistic understanding and this struggle for the new formula is the raison d’etre for their problems.
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| In the past five-seven years there has been a dramatic rise in the amount of marketing budget devoted to promotions in India. Do excessive promotions negatively impact brands? |
| Promotions are not necessarily bad always. What matters more is the context and what else does your marketing programme comprise in addition to promos to enhance your brand equity.
This makes the role of promotions very clear—the impetus to get consumers to react to a strong brand. There are promotions that drive the brand building, coupled with creating an incentive for the consumer. So, the trick is to come up with promotions the creatively build the brand are also very motivating for customers.
Also important is to look at other aspects of the marketing programme that should reinforce brand equity. Promotions are a part of the marketing programme.
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| How was working with Dr Kotler on the 12th edition? |
| Dr Kotler’s name is synonymous with great respect. I admire him for being extremely active and involved in terms of keeping track of the dynamic nature of marketing. The width and breadth of his experience in the field is impressive and it’s fun working with him, an endeavor that took us almost a year to complete.
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| The 4Ps model is seen as being outdated and many marketing thinkers have challenged and offerred alternative models. As a co-author of the book that proposed this model, what are your views? |
| In the 12th edition, we have talked about the 4Ps model but more in a historic sense rather than a learning tool. Personally, I don’t think it is probably not a good characterisation of how marketing works. In the new edition, we talk about holistic marketing that includes four main themes—internal marketing, integrated marketing, relationship marketing and performance marketing.
Personally, the 4Ps I would like to emphasise on are people, processes, programmes and performance. These 4Ps capture the new marketing environment.
For instance, people—consumers and employees are not just looked at from the point of view of a single transaction, but need to be looked as people. Programmes are the activities you are involved in as part of the brand building activity.
Processes look at what needs to be done in order to make marketing more vigorous. Performance takes us to return on marketing investments and understanding what are you doing for the consumer, the environment and other immportant metrics. This encapsulates the spirit of what we’ve talked about in the book.
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- “Marketing has to re-examine all of its central concepts”: Philip Kotler
Philip Kotler is a brand, and an iconic brand at that. The author of Marketing Management; the definitive textbook read by every business school student across the world, Kotler is currently the SC Johnson & Son Distinguished Professor of Interna- tional Marketing at the Kellogg School of Management, Northwestern University, US.
The maverick marketing academic talks in detail about the changing marketplace and what it means for marketers, the threatened state of marketing as a function and emerging paradigms.
- “Marketers are still stuck in the memories of golden 60s & 70s”: Jagdish Sheth
One of the most erudite scholars and copious writers on various aspects of marketing and consumer behaviour today, Dr Jag Sheth is the proponent of the 4As framework, which lobs the consumer at the very centre of the entire marketing spectrum.In this freewheeling interview,Prof Sheth speaks at length on the whys and hows of refashioning marketing-moving away from the product-and-brand-centricity to one that of consumer-centricity.
- “P&G and HP are leading the marketing RoI wave”: James Lenskold
James D Lenskold is the foremost proponent of marketing RoI. In his book, Marketing RoI: The Path to Campaign, Customer and Corporate Profitability, he asks marketers to inculcate financial discipline by evaluating the return on marketing investments. Lenskold is credited with developing innovative and holistic marketing RoI processes and tools.In this interview, he talks about the demarcation between marketing and business goals, the business relevance of ‘softer’ aspects of marketing, and the need for marketers to look beyond just building a strong brand equity.
- “Customers see higher value when they can co-create”: Venkat Ramaswamy
The rising flow of information and the resultant knowledge that customers have about various products and services, together with their increasing demand for customisation, have put an ever-increasing burden on marketers. In fact, this essentially is a call for letting customers co-create value and thus provide them with product experience that can a last lifetime, says Venkat Ramaswamy, professor of marketing at the Stephen M Ross School of Business at the University of Michigan.He says it’s high time that companies shifted from the traditional 4Ps of marketing and allowed customers to become part of their marketing process so that they can give the product an altogether different meaning. He insists on delivering unique experience to customers by engaging them in a personal way thereby making product purchase a memorable event.
- “All communication is an incentive”: Don Schultz
Don Schultz is the Professor of Integrated Marketing Communi- cations at the Medill School of Journalism, Northwestern University, and is a renowned name in the field of marketing. He is more known for highlighting the importance of integrating marketing communication (IMC).In this interview, he talks about why IMC is necessary, how marketing needs to move out from a narrow definition to become a strategic planning function!
- “Experiential marketing gives you a competitive edge”: Bernd Schmitt
Bernd Schmitt is the Robert D Calkins Professor of International Business at the Columbia Business School, where he also directs the Centre for Global Brand Leadership. A prominent name in the world of branding, he is best known for his unique call to marketing to look beyond the selling model and instead focus on experience as the next big 'differentiator'. In this email interview, he talks about the alternative approach of experience being the pivot of marketing, the five-step process to achieve it and how the consumer is at the end of the day human and like all humans oftentimes it's the heart that rules the head.
- “Markets undergo changes faster than marketers”: Nirmalya Kumar
A formidable authority on marketing, Nirmalya Kumar is the Professor of Marketing and Co-Director of the Aditya Birla India Centre at the London Business School. In his latest book Marketing As Strategy: Understanding the CEO's Agenda for Growth and Innovation, he speaks about the interesting paradox of the marginalisation of marketing as a function while the need for marketing is being increasingly voiced.In this email interview, Kumar speaks about the 'century of retail', its implications for marketers and more specifically what domestic marketers can do to build and sustain strong brands with the advent of organised retail.
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